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PostSubject: big ich outbreak   Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:23 pm

UH OH...i have a nice outbreak of ich in a heavily populated tank full of inverts.this isnt good. Embarassed ihave used the no ich with great succes before but the local pet store is out and the ich seems to have taken hold.maybe its been ther longer than i care to admit. Rolling Eyes so now i have to figure on a way to rig up a system to treat these fish with a non reef safe medication.man i LOVE this hobby.enginuity and problem solving.something i am always needing work on.
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:40 pm

Let me know if you need some tanks! I have a 15 and 20L I am trying to get rid of...black AGA. Dollar per gallon each. Maybe a 40b too
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:42 pm

i also recommend copper power...safer to use at higher doses. It is all I will use for ich as far as copper. The only two scientifically proven ways to get rid of marine ich are copper based medications and hyposalinity with raised temps.
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:05 pm

i am dropping the salinity and i have copper power but i am aiming to use seachems cupramine as a treatment.i will go by the recomended dosage and test before and after any medication additions.i will look into getting them a heater. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:58 pm

Be careful. Cupramine is dangerous in my experience
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:34 pm

UH OH.... Embarassed tell me more.i have dosed already.i can change the system if there is a need to.
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:48 pm

It is very strong. Just watch for any ammonia spike along with signs of overdose. You have a test kit? Just watch for signs of stress. Like loss of color etc. Angels and some other fish dont tolerate is as well
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:48 pm

yeah i have the test kit.and the angel that brought the illness is has already departed. confused thanks for the heads up.i have already used copper power and have been dying for an excuse to use the bottle of cupramine i have had unopened for some time.well here we go.
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:12 am

[img][/img]this is the medication i am using...seachems Cupramine.pretty straight forward dosage.2 drops per gallon wait 48 hours then dose again.allow about a 2 week treatment and everything should be good.as i have stated i will be monitoring copper before and after treatments and keeping my eyes on the fishes general health during this treatment.
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:49 am

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here it is my copper sytem with all the PVC caves and fake decor setup for the engineers.its the best i could do on short notice.had to setup the ghetto devider to keep em seperated.replumbed it to my nano cubes as to facilitate maximum fishes.
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:40 pm

oddly enough there was an ammonia spike and i did lose a couple of my baby clowns. Sad now for a water change and possibly utilize a ammonia badge or tab.or just do a water change every day! Mad gotta buy more salt.
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:09 pm

Sorry man. It almost always happens when you dose a system with copper for the first time, especially that copper. You got an air stone in there?
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:50 am

i dont have an air stone in there yet but i do have a turbulant overflow.here this morning again the ammonia is rather high and in need of another 75% water change.
[img][/img]i was talking to a fellow reefer today and we decided that a ceramic biuomedia should work out rather well in the future for processing ammonia in a system with minimal filteration and rock.
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:49 pm

damn, that sucks... heavy duty water changes man...
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:38 am

so woke up about 5:50 A.M. to my copper system having had cracked all the way down the front glass pane and had leaked all over the floor and had actualy made it to the first floor through its ceiling.it seems that the shelf may not have been level at one of the corners of the tank being as i did not make the shelf nor did i reinforce it do to my hasty ich treatment.this is my asumption as i dont want to blame anyone else in the household except myself.on the bright side the tank did not explode and no fish made it to the floor.i had to buy a brand new 20 long since that is the only tank that would fit on the shelf especialy after i reinforced it and i just had a friend who offered me a 20 long for super cheap.what a poopy week.
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:54 pm

well that is sh!tty, not the way i wanna wake up...
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:07 pm

yeah it was super lame.i have everything setback up and running smoothly now.here is the tank that didnt make it.[img][/img]i think from now on i will be making all the stands for my tanks myself.just so i sleep easier at night.
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:10 pm

on a brighter note the fish seem to be getting better.spots are going away and activity is up. i think its almost been two weeks.gotta check the copper levels and such and do another examination.
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:39 pm

and i thought gorilla shelves were best shelves...
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:57 pm

they are pretty good they are just not designed for tanks in mind.it really was my bad in theory.
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:49 am

well its been more than 2 weeks in the copper system.actualy about 3 and everything is groovy so i beleive i have conquered the ich this time around.its been alot of water changes and a bit of a headache but the majority of fish are alive so chalk one up for the hobbyist.woo hoo! Cool
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:19 am

i think they have finaly graduated.
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ich free.
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:25 pm

im sure you are happy to stop with the daily water changes and such...
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PostSubject: Re: big ich outbreak   Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:12 pm

actualy in the end the bacteria finaly got in gear and i just had to do a real heavy water change once a week.i bet it would be even better if i actualy employed a filter instead of just rubble and rock.
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